Buy and Hold or Flip Out of State Investment Properties?

Anyone who is involved in real estate investing for long will eventually ask him or herself a critical question:

Should I buy and hold or flip San Antonio investment properties?

Flipping houses has become very popular in the last decade, probably due to all the Flip That House type shows on TV. On the other hand is buy and hold investing, which is probably the oldest way to make money in real estate investing.

So which should you do? Well, it depends!

Overview of Flipping Houses

The basic definition of flipping a house is buying a property under market value (20-50% usually), improving it, and then reselling it for a profit. To gain maximum financial advantage, the goal is to sell the house as quickly as possible after the rehab.

A good house flipper in under market value houses will try to buy, rehab and resell the under market value property as quickly as he can. The reason is that holding a piece of real estate without any income coming in costs money. Some of ‘soft costs’ of holding a flip property include:

  • Property taxes
  • Utilities
  • Hard money finance charges
  • Any repair and maintenance

House flippers try to hold the property as little as possible. In the flips I have done in the last year, I held my San Antonio investment properties for about three months each.

Overview of Buy and Hold Investing with Out of State Investment Properties

This type of investing with below market value properties involves purchasing the under market value house, making some amount of improvements, and then keeping the house for rental or owner finance income. To pay for the monthly costs of holding the property in most cases, the house will be rented to a tenant. Typical holding costs for a buy and hold property are:

  • Financing
  • Taxes
  • Utilities
  • Property taxes
  • Maintenance costs

It should be noted here that there are other forms of buy and hold investing, which is the type we usually do. That is, we buy and hold the property in cash, and owner finance the under market value house to a qualified buyer.

The advantage of this type of buy and hold investing with out of state investment properties is that there are no maintenance costs. Also, without a mortgage, this type of under market value investing is usually less risky, especially in a downturn.

Pros of Flipping

  • Short term profits: You can, ideally, realize your profits in a few weeks or months. Your cash will not be tied up in an under market value property for very long, and you can move on to another deal.
  • If you can flip a house in under six months and make at least 15% profit, you have done very well.
  • Good ROI, if you know how to rehab an under market value property without overdoing it.
  • No renters or landlord headaches.

Cons of Flipping

  • Making money at it takes a lot of work. The reality shows make it look easy. Flipping a house and making money isn’t as easy as it looks.
  • Unexpected costs: Anyone who rehabs under market value houses for a living will run into unexpected additional costs. This can be especially damaging when you are trying to make quick profits.
  • Rehab problems: You might think it will take a week to do that roof, but it takes six weeks. That adds to your time line and when you will be able to make a profit.
  • In an appreciating market, you may have trouble finding under market value houses that are truly flippable.

Pros of Buying and Holding

  • Creating wealth: You can really build wealth over time with buy and hold investing, especially with owner financing rather than renting under market value property. Real estate also will generally increase in value over time, which can make you very well off.
  • Steady cash flow: If you own several properties that each make $800 per month, this is a nice way to earn a living.
  • No worry about selling short term: You can usually wait out the inevitable downturn in the market as you are enjoying the cash flow from the property. A flipper could end up in trouble if the market crashes in the middle of a project.

Cons of Buying and Holding

  • Market changes: If you need cash fast, you could need to sell your under market value property but the market dipped so you lose money.
  • Legal problems: Tenants can be a pain in the neck, which is why we mostly owner finance our houses. We only carry the note on our houses, so we have no tenant issues at all.
  • Struggles with being a landlord: A buy and hold rental property can turn into a negative cash flow situation easily if you do not buy the property at the right price, and if there are expensive repairs. Vacancies are another big problem in bad markets. Again, that is the plus of investing with owner financing and buying cash – no mortgages and no tenants.
  • Property management responsibilities for rentals

Overall, in our experience, we prefer buying and holding with owner finance over flipping. Flipping is great if we need to get more cash to buy and hold more houses, but it is not a long term wealth creation solution for us for Texas cash flow.

 

 

3 ways to stay positive in the midst of a storm

Key Takeaways

  • Listening to positive and inspiring people keeps your spirits up in rough times.
  • Staying positive can lead to new business opportunities.
  • Stay away from negative real estate investors especially online forums.

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Maintaining a positive attitude in San Antonio investment properties has been key to my long-term success since 2001. My mentors taught me that staying relentlessly positive in my investing would propel me through rough waters.

And have I ever been through some rough Class-4 rapids in my day.

But let’s back up for a second. Before the real estate crash of 2008, I focused largely on $1 million homes in San Antonio, Texas, which I rehabbed and resold for a 30 percent profit. Those were the days — rehab a house in four months and sell it for a $325,000 profit.
Learn from tough times

Then one morning in 2008, I called my local bank to borrow an additional $250,000 for two rehabs. The voice on the other end of the phone said, sorry — we aren’t loaning money on under market value San Antonio investment properties anymore.

What? And that was when it all started to fall apart. It was nearly impossible to borrow money, though I owned 100 houses free and clear and had an eight-year success record.

But I had a bigger problem. I was stuck with $1 million worth of under market value houses that I couldn’t sell. No one could qualify for mortgages, and the market crash had dropped their value to under $800,000.

I had many sleepless nights. Despair crept up on me as my bank account shrank.
Focus on positive speakers

Even though I was losing money left and right at this time, I still managed to keep a positive, can-do attitude with my out of state investment properties.

That’s easy to say, but how did I do it? I listened every day to positive speeches and sermons from famous speakers and pastors.

Being a Christian, I listened every day to Joel Osteen; I found his uplifting sermons about prosperity in all aspects of life to be a huge lift for me.

Also, I listened daily to the leader of Christian Business Leaders International, Bob Harrison, who is also known as the No. 1 increase authority in America.

Harrison has been through trying financial times as well. But his optimism has carried him through, and he is now one of the leading business speakers in the world.
Lead with optimism and find new opportunities

Maintaining an optimistic outlook didn’t just get me through the market crash. It also opened new horizons for me in real estate investing.

I discovered something shocking: the expensive $1-million houses are the riskiest investments. When the market dips, the demand for those homes plummets, as do the prices.

On the other hand, my little, bitty $50,000 three-bedroom, one-bathroom out of state investment property sells just the same no matter what’s happening in the market.

The demand was always there for these small under-market-value houses, and each one made — and continues to make — me $600 to $800 per month on owner financing.

So, the crash and staying positive throughout it led me to an amazing new business opportunity — buying and selling distressed homes and owner-financing them. Even better, the crash allowed me to snatch up 100 of these houses for about $20,000 each, and they now sell for $50,000 each or more.
The crash and staying positive throughout it led me to an amazing new business opportunity.
3 tips for staying positive

It’s vital to maintain a positive, can-do spirit in your real estate investing, no matter what. This is what makes you stick to it when other investors give up. Here’s my advice:

1. When things are bad, listen to uplifting and motivational speakers

Find positive business mentors online that can inspire you and keep you motivated. Zig Ziglar is another great one.

2. Remove yourself from negative environments, especially online forums

I love the Internet, but there is a lot of negativity on some real estate investing websites. Many people just want to moan about how bad things are — it makes them feel better.

I don’t have even one second of time for this kind of talk. Associate with positive, can-do real estate investors only. And by the way, I made plenty of money in real estate without a website or ever being online at all.

3. Shadow a successful, positive mentor

Whatever city you are in, you can locate a good real estate mentor to inspire you. Why would he or she talk to you? Because you have something to offer.

Offer to help them with hanging signs, making calls or doing office work in exchange for learning from them. I met most of my mentors at real estate meetings in San Antonio, and their positive attitude rubbed off on me.

Maintaining an optimistic outlook in down times led me to even better real estate success in under market value  properties, so always keep your chin up.

 

How To Retire Young With Under Market Value Properties

Hello investors and ‘maybe’ investors! Thanks for visiting my little website about under market value properties in San Antonio TX. It is these little bitty affordable homes that allowed  many people to retire young. You can, too!

#1 I Discovered an Inexpensive, Stable Real Estate Market

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Before investing in San Antonio, many of our investment property investors considered Austin, but that’s an expensive market, even years ago. But San Antonios is only an hour south and is a great market for owner financing.

During the market crash of 2008-9, the prices of these homes dropped, and and many investors were able to pick up a dozen at 50% under market value. That also helped to grow our investors’ real estate portfolio.

Lesson Learned: Steer clear of real estate markets with high entry costs. Lower cost cities are much easier for investors with limited capital.

#2 We Found Reasonably Priced Private Money

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After you get your first house or two, you may not have any more cash. But where should you look? One way to do it is to just make phone calls looking for private money. Another is to go to investor meetings and get to know people with money.

Eventually, through all phone calls and networking meetings, some  investors found people willing to loan money at reasonable interest rates. When you can find that source, it makes everything a lot easier.  However, you also can borrow money from your own home or IRA, if you have a good under market value deal and keep the rehab reasonable.

Note – many of us prefer to invest all cash, but there ARE other options. You can, for example, buy nicer houses for $75,000 or so and do 20% down conventional finance, and then owner finance them. Cash flow is ~$300-400 per month with no maintenance.

: Be prepared to do a lot of work and make a lot of phone calls to find private money. It’s easiest of course if you have family willing to loan you money on reasonable terms. If not, get on the phone, and go to real estate meetings every week.

#3 Become A Real Estate Market Expert In Your City

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One of the keys to success is to buy houses many other investors run screaming from! You can buy houses that don’t look that great, do some minor rehab, and owner finance the investment property to a willing buyer.

Other investors early in their careers rehabbed homes themselves and got to know the market in the city. This helps you get a great idea of what homes in many parts of San Antonio are worth. Then, you know how much a San Antonio fixer upper needs in rehab and what to spend without overspending.

You also can earn your real estate license, and spend many hours studying prices of houses. One of the most important parts of being a successful investor is getting a house at least at 20% under market value.

Lesson Learned: Study your local market so you can buy houses under market value. Can’t find those kinds of deals? Consider working with an expert real estate investor in your market who can help you find those deals! Offer to help him or her with their business in exchange for turning you on to good, under market value deals.

#4 Find Good Real Estate Mentors

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Getting started in real estate without successful mentors is like going fishing without fishing tackle! Every beginner real estate investor should work with very successful and experienced mentors. You can find mentors at real estate meetings in San Antonio and also at real estate conferences in other cities.

Lesson Learned: Find mentors and real estate partners who have done several hundred deals and have done well in both boom and bust markets. Working alone in real estate as a rookie is a recipe for disaster.

#5  Invest in Cash, for Cash Flow Only – With Owner Financed Real Estate

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One of the most important lessons some of use learned from our mentors is to owner finance many properties instead of rent them out.

Under the advice of our mentors, we stopped rehabbing and renting out houses. In many cases, we used an owner finance model only.

Today, we buy a San Antonio investment property for cash for about $50,000 or $60,000, do $10000 in rehab, and then resell the property with owner financing to a qualified buyer. There are no overhead costs or property management costs associated with this exit strategy.

(You CAN do owner finance with conventional financing, 20% down, and still earn $300-$400 per month in cash flow.)

Lesson Learned: Consider investing strategies other than renting out property. Owner financing houses is less stressful and is clearer cut in terms of monthly cash flow.

Want to learn more how to do make real estate cash flow on San Antonio investment property? Contact me at jmpickett@gmail.com.

And remember, most of our out of state investment property investors used to buy California investment property, San Diego investment property, San Francisco investment property, and Los Angeles investment property. Here in San Antonio, they usually make 12-15% ROI for great real estate cash flow – without maintenance costs.